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Last Rites

Post by fingers630 » 2014-06-10

Last Rites
Cavalier- Rank 8 Adventure Only
Cleric- Rank 9 Adventure Only

Length: 500 Syllables
Range: Touch
Energy Cost: 1 Spell Point
Duration: Permanent
Area of Effect: 1 Creature
Material Component: Holy Symbol

This spell allows the Cleric to put to rest the soul or spirit of any one dead creature. The target of this spell may not be Resurrected, Animated, or otherwise revived in any way. Trolls, Vampires, and other regenerating creatures are permanently put to rest and may not return to the living world.

Speak with dead may not be cast on any creature affected by Last Rites. Characters that have been affected by Last Rites must spend the appropriate time in Hades. If there is no Hades in play, the character must remain out-of-game for a period of 12 minutes before returning to play.

Last Rites may be applies to living creatures only when cast against demons, undead, or summoned beings. Any creatures from those three categories are immediately banished from the Cleric’s plane of existence and are instantly returned to their original plane. The banished creature may not return again for the period of 12 minutes.

Last Rites is final.
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New Proposed Change:

First I want to fix this sentence that makes no sense “Last Rites may be applies to living creatures only when cast against demons, undead, or summoned beings.” It appears a typo was made and it should read “applied” instead.

Second I would like to make one of the following changes to the Spell:

1. Change Area of Effect to 1 NPC Creature and remove the text about “Characters”, changing this to an NPC affected only spell.
2. Add the text “Clerics may not make scrolls of this spell.

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Re: Last Rites

Post by Sir Tyriel Firebrand » 2014-07-22

Why do you want to make it NPC only? Im not for or against, im just curious.
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Re: Last Rites

Post by fingers630 » 2014-07-23

In conjunction with Rogue class replacing thieves and assassins, there would be many more people with ability to assassinate, then read the last rite scroll (cause rogues can do both). It was mentioned as one of the flaws with the class proposal, wherein this fixes that issue. If its NPC only, Rogues cant use it to assassinate. If its no longer a scroll, no longer an issue. Either fixes issue.
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Re: Last Rites

Post by Inox » 2014-07-24

NPC only is nice. I think we should make a few other things NPC-only as well...
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Re: Last Rites

Post by Sir Tyriel Firebrand » 2014-07-24

I think we should jsut cap what level they can read scrolls from.
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Re: Last Rites

Post by fingers630 » 2014-07-25

In my second iteration of the Rogue class, I capped it at 8th level. This eliminates a lot of "biggies" like Pouch, Last Rites, Magic Stone, Steelskin, etc. Thieves were up in arms LOL.

Personally im fine with it as it means thieves give up something to gain assassin traits. Of course then you get the "but im a thief not an assassin" crowd shouting at you. Assassins should just be redone, but its so dumb to have 2 almost identical classes (1 a watered down version with a dumb ability that makes them OP).
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