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death proposal

Posted: 2012-01-20
by fingers630
Do you think that something should be included about not interacting with characters still in play while dead? i hear it mentioned all the time when some dead person yells a warning out to someone about to be backstabbed.

Re: death proposal

Posted: 2012-01-20
by ylinett
Might as well put something in that says don't cheat while we are looking at don't meta-game.

Re: death proposal

Posted: 2012-01-21
by Xunyl
Actually that is already covered under the death rule. However in most cases when you suffer enough wounds to go down you are considered mortally wounded. Reference the bottom of page 86 to the top of page 88. As the book states...

"...Players who are mortally wounded will die five minutes after they suffer the wound if they are not healed. Mortally wounded players cannot stand, fight, or cast spells. They may, however, crawl, speak, quaff a potion, scream in pain and may still hold onto their weapons with any arm that is not wounded. If a mortally wounded player suffers any additional wounds, he is considered dead."

So the answer to your problem: Dead men tell no tales, if you don't want them screaming out warnings, take a moment to finish them off.

Re: death proposal

Posted: 2012-01-21
by Lord Valfryn
If I'm mortal, I will holler out at people. The real way to handle it, is stab anyone that's talking. Just red them the F up. If they aren't making the international sign for "I'm talking OOC"... slay them again. In live play, the only thing a dead player should be able to say is "I'm dead."

Re: death proposal

Posted: 2012-01-21
by fingers630
Per Bendore's proposal:

Death:
When you die, lay on the ground or get out of the way if you feel endangered of getting hurt. If the ground is wet then you may sit up with your weapon on your head. Do not leave the field until the fight is over. Anytime you are dead and not laying on the ground, hold you weapon over your head.


I see nothing about speaking mentioned here, hence my suggestion of adding it to his proposal.

Re: death proposal

Posted: 2012-01-21
by Prince Andrick
While I understand it is not mentioned, it boggles my mind that we would have to put it in the rules that you can't speak when dead. Unfortunately, we probably need to.

"When dead, you may not speak or make any noise of any kind other then to say "dead" if asked". Done.

Re: death proposal

Posted: 2012-01-21
by fingers630
correct. i agree we shouldnt have to list out a lot of things, but appeal to the lowest intellect and all.. :)

Re: death proposal

Posted: 2012-01-21
by Lord Valfryn
I really don't want to outright rule against speaking at all. Perhaps state that players may not interact in character when dead? This is when most players are congratulating eachother for good fights, etc. If we want to keep the fights rolling, we may not want to prohibit that interraction.. as the conversations would then take place during the lineup.

Re: death proposal

Posted: 2012-01-22
by Inox
Under the Death section of the rulebook, it already states:

Once a player is dead, he cannot move, speak, or perform any other actions for two minutes or at the discretion of an Elder.

Emphasis added.

Re: death proposal

Posted: 2012-01-23
by jayjay
Lord Valfryn wrote:I really don't want to outright rule against speaking at all. Perhaps state that players may not interact in character when dead? This is when most players are congratulating eachother for good fights, etc. If we want to keep the fights rolling, we may not want to prohibit that interraction.. as the conversations would then take place during the lineup.


the reason for allowing some speaking is the 'TREE!' instance. i don't think anyone would get penalized for calling things out for safety.

Re: death proposal

Posted: 2012-01-23
by Lord Valfryn
true, true

Re: death proposal

Posted: 2012-01-23
by Wulfen Freki
As Inox has already stated the rule in the rulebook; is this really necessary?
Are we trying to add/change things just for the sake of proposing stuff or is there an actual need to reiterate this in further detail?

Re: death proposal

Posted: 2012-01-24
by Lord Dubh
As has already been said, the President proposal sent to Senate is only to clarify that people do in fact have to lay down when they die. All other tidbits are already in the book.

If someone wants to write something comprehensive to consolidate all of the various things related to death please do so.

Re: death proposal

Posted: 2012-01-24
by Wulfen Freki
I apologize,I missed the part saying this was a presidential ruling going through the process. I'll shut up now.

Re: death proposal

Posted: 2012-01-24
by Lord Dubh
Wulfen Freki wrote:I apologize,I missed the part saying this was a presidential ruling going through the process. I'll shut up now.


Nope your fine. I figured you were talking about the OP anyway. Here is what is going to Senate:

Death:
When you die, lay on the ground or get out of the way if you feel endangered of getting hurt. If the ground is wet then you may sit up with your weapon on your head. Do not leave the field until the fight is over. Anytime you are dead and not laying on the ground, hold you weapon over your head.


I did not include all the other stuff because as has been pointed out. It's already in the rules but it could be consolidated. I'm just not the one that is going to do it. Already working on a huge consolidation project for the club.